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	<title>Comments on: The 7 Steps of Software Development - Revisited</title>
	<link>http://vbnotebookfor.net/2007/07/13/the-7-steps-of-software-development-revisited/</link>
	<description>Articles on VB.NET and Software Development Team Leadership</description>
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		<title>By: Aftab yo</title>
		<link>http://vbnotebookfor.net/2007/07/13/the-7-steps-of-software-development-revisited/#comment-545</link>
		<author>Aftab yo</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the great acticle. Its hard to find such cool tips and tricks.

Keep up the good work!

Cheer!

Aftab
http://ComputerVideos.110mb.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the great acticle. Its hard to find such cool tips and tricks.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work!</p>
<p>Cheer!</p>
<p>Aftab<br />
<a href="http://ComputerVideos.110mb.com/" rel="nofollow">http://ComputerVideos.110mb.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: jfrankcarr</title>
		<link>http://vbnotebookfor.net/2007/07/13/the-7-steps-of-software-development-revisited/#comment-3</link>
		<author>jfrankcarr</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know what you mean. I did work for a 'Joe' on a contract job and yes, a 'Brian' came in and cussed us all out. That was part of the inspiration for the story. Our story had a happier ending since a fellow contractor and myself called up the contracting company we were working through and complained about the incident. They, in turn, called up the company and our 'Brian' was history and a contract project manager was brought in to help our 'Joe'. 

In my story, I was looking at it as a worse case scenario, as in "What if our complaints had fallen on deaf ears?".

Oh, and thanks for the links. There's some good information there. Unfortunately, protection against most of these bullying behaviors is less here in the US than it is in Canada.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know what you mean. I did work for a &#8216;Joe&#8217; on a contract job and yes, a &#8216;Brian&#8217; came in and cussed us all out. That was part of the inspiration for the story. Our story had a happier ending since a fellow contractor and myself called up the contracting company we were working through and complained about the incident. They, in turn, called up the company and our &#8216;Brian&#8217; was history and a contract project manager was brought in to help our &#8216;Joe&#8217;. </p>
<p>In my story, I was looking at it as a worse case scenario, as in &#8220;What if our complaints had fallen on deaf ears?&#8221;.</p>
<p>Oh, and thanks for the links. There&#8217;s some good information there. Unfortunately, protection against most of these bullying behaviors is less here in the US than it is in Canada.</p>
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		<title>By: Gates VP</title>
		<link>http://vbnotebookfor.net/2007/07/13/the-7-steps-of-software-development-revisited/#comment-2</link>
		<author>Gates VP</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey man, me again :)

I completely agree that Joe was definitely a good programmer and definitely an asset to the company. My problem is that Joe's managerial failures were actually costing the people underneath him. You have Brian chewing out the whole team, b/c Joe took on a job he couldn't handle.

Imagine that you're working under Joe. You like Joe and you're still kind of new to this field, so Joe's teaching you a lot. You've been knocking off Joe's tasks with lightning speed and you're liking your job. Then Brian comes in, calls a team meeting and yells and swears at everybody, including Joe.

Now Joe is currently responsible for your career. You're doing good work for Joe and the only way you're getting the pay raise that you deserve is to have Joe put in some good words for you. But look, according to Brian you're just part of a major team failure and you're going to have to work OT to make up for everything.

After the second chewing out, why does anyone want to work with Joe any more? You're doing what Joe tells you and then Managers come in and yell at you anyways. Joe is taking this stage of your career and just crushing it.

As to bullying, well we have some good links:
&lt;a href="http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/psychosocial/bullying.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/psychosocial/bullying.html&lt;/a&gt;
(Québec now has a bullying law).
and from Monster
&lt;a href="http://content.monster.ca/9426_en-CA_pf.asp" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://content.monster.ca/9426_en-CA_pf.asp&lt;/a&gt;

FTA
&lt;i&gt;“This is what I tell my Monster readers,” says Clarke. “If nothing is done about it, and believe me, I’ve heard enough stories from my readers where things were not done, you don’t want to work there anyway. If that is the mandate, if that is the way this company sets its policies and treats its employees, then you don’t want to be there anyway. Get out.”&lt;/i&gt;

If I were working for Joe and received the second "chewing out" from Brian, I'm looking for a new job. If I'm a consultant on that project, I'm working angles for a new gig and blacklisting Brian and the company to all of my consulting friends.

So Joe may be an asset to the company as a programmer, but his failure to defend the team is costing his company in image and in staff.

Of course, I like the idea of assertiveness training and associated suggestions. I have spoken with others about as Toastmasters and even had one perenially bitter co-worker take up kung-fu lessons :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey man, me again :)</p>
<p>I completely agree that Joe was definitely a good programmer and definitely an asset to the company. My problem is that Joe&#8217;s managerial failures were actually costing the people underneath him. You have Brian chewing out the whole team, b/c Joe took on a job he couldn&#8217;t handle.</p>
<p>Imagine that you&#8217;re working under Joe. You like Joe and you&#8217;re still kind of new to this field, so Joe&#8217;s teaching you a lot. You&#8217;ve been knocking off Joe&#8217;s tasks with lightning speed and you&#8217;re liking your job. Then Brian comes in, calls a team meeting and yells and swears at everybody, including Joe.</p>
<p>Now Joe is currently responsible for your career. You&#8217;re doing good work for Joe and the only way you&#8217;re getting the pay raise that you deserve is to have Joe put in some good words for you. But look, according to Brian you&#8217;re just part of a major team failure and you&#8217;re going to have to work OT to make up for everything.</p>
<p>After the second chewing out, why does anyone want to work with Joe any more? You&#8217;re doing what Joe tells you and then Managers come in and yell at you anyways. Joe is taking this stage of your career and just crushing it.</p>
<p>As to bullying, well we have some good links:<br />
<a href="http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/psychosocial/bullying.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/psychosocial/bullying.html</a><br />
(Québec now has a bullying law).<br />
and from Monster<br />
<a href="http://content.monster.ca/9426_en-CA_pf.asp" rel="nofollow">http://content.monster.ca/9426_en-CA_pf.asp</a></p>
<p>FTA<br />
<i>“This is what I tell my Monster readers,” says Clarke. “If nothing is done about it, and believe me, I’ve heard enough stories from my readers where things were not done, you don’t want to work there anyway. If that is the mandate, if that is the way this company sets its policies and treats its employees, then you don’t want to be there anyway. Get out.”</i></p>
<p>If I were working for Joe and received the second &#8220;chewing out&#8221; from Brian, I&#8217;m looking for a new job. If I&#8217;m a consultant on that project, I&#8217;m working angles for a new gig and blacklisting Brian and the company to all of my consulting friends.</p>
<p>So Joe may be an asset to the company as a programmer, but his failure to defend the team is costing his company in image and in staff.</p>
<p>Of course, I like the idea of assertiveness training and associated suggestions. I have spoken with others about as Toastmasters and even had one perenially bitter co-worker take up kung-fu lessons :)</p>
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