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	<title>Comments on: Should You Pursue a Career In Programming?</title>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://vbnotebookfor.net/2007/10/11/should-you-pursue-a-career-in-programming/#comment-1209</link>
		<author>Paul</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get into Sales - More money.
I was a programmer but left it because of outsourcing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get into Sales - More money.<br />
I was a programmer but left it because of outsourcing.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitchell Machor</title>
		<link>http://vbnotebookfor.net/2007/10/11/should-you-pursue-a-career-in-programming/#comment-1103</link>
		<author>Mitchell Machor</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 12:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://vbnotebookfor.net/2007/10/11/should-you-pursue-a-career-in-programming/#comment-1103</guid>
		<description>I am a programmer, and I feel that yes it is hard to find the great job.  I specialize in forensic programming which fortunatly is in a demand.  I wouldn't give it up for anything.  When it comes to programming, I do it for the love of it, not just the money.  It is those who seek out the money and don't have their heart in it that are causing people to look elsewhere.  Its not just the cost of hiring a programmer, its the cost of hiring a lousy programmer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a programmer, and I feel that yes it is hard to find the great job.  I specialize in forensic programming which fortunatly is in a demand.  I wouldn&#8217;t give it up for anything.  When it comes to programming, I do it for the love of it, not just the money.  It is those who seek out the money and don&#8217;t have their heart in it that are causing people to look elsewhere.  Its not just the cost of hiring a programmer, its the cost of hiring a lousy programmer.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://vbnotebookfor.net/2007/10/11/should-you-pursue-a-career-in-programming/#comment-1100</link>
		<author>Lee</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 19:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://vbnotebookfor.net/2007/10/11/should-you-pursue-a-career-in-programming/#comment-1100</guid>
		<description>You would have to be stupid to go into IT as an American today. It doesn't matter how good you are, you won't get hired because American companies will hire a H1B worker first. The H1B worker may not be as good, but he is good enough and far cheaper. And here is the key point. Even if you are far better, and will work as cheaply as the H1B worker, you still won't get the job, because you are an American programmer. Keep in mind that many Indians and other enemy personnel are now in hiring positions, and they will never hire an American. So stay far away from IT. Go into something that is hands-on and can't be outsourced - just be prepared to learn Spanish to talk with your coworkers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You would have to be stupid to go into IT as an American today. It doesn&#8217;t matter how good you are, you won&#8217;t get hired because American companies will hire a H1B worker first. The H1B worker may not be as good, but he is good enough and far cheaper. And here is the key point. Even if you are far better, and will work as cheaply as the H1B worker, you still won&#8217;t get the job, because you are an American programmer. Keep in mind that many Indians and other enemy personnel are now in hiring positions, and they will never hire an American. So stay far away from IT. Go into something that is hands-on and can&#8217;t be outsourced - just be prepared to learn Spanish to talk with your coworkers.</p>
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		<title>By: arti bhadkamkar</title>
		<link>http://vbnotebookfor.net/2007/10/11/should-you-pursue-a-career-in-programming/#comment-1014</link>
		<author>arti bhadkamkar</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my mail id is arti.bhakamkar@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my mail id is <a href="mailto:arti.bhakamkar@gmail.com">arti.bhakamkar@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: arti bhadkamkar</title>
		<link>http://vbnotebookfor.net/2007/10/11/should-you-pursue-a-career-in-programming/#comment-1013</link>
		<author>arti bhadkamkar</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://vbnotebookfor.net/2007/10/11/should-you-pursue-a-career-in-programming/#comment-1013</guid>
		<description>i want to pursue some course related to programming I am having
graduation in commerce field that too without maths will it be posible for me to pursue some course in programming kind need help of experienced people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i want to pursue some course related to programming I am having<br />
graduation in commerce field that too without maths will it be posible for me to pursue some course in programming kind need help of experienced people.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://vbnotebookfor.net/2007/10/11/should-you-pursue-a-career-in-programming/#comment-764</link>
		<author>Aaron</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://vbnotebookfor.net/2007/10/11/should-you-pursue-a-career-in-programming/#comment-764</guid>
		<description>RE: jfrankcarr  

Thanks for your advice!  I don't believe I'll be able to do software development forever.  But I will as long as I can.  My point about non-traditional job security is this:

Programming is something that lends itself well to an entrepreneurial approach for the same reason it lends itself to outsourcing.  Ours is one of the few professions that given a laptop and electricity, we can work anywhere.  I believe that job security in American IT in this post-Outsourcing world will be achieved by those who are flexible enough to fill a vaccuum.  Sometimes it will be multi-year engagements, othertimes it'll be 3-6 month gigs.  But the key (IMHO) is to see the biz need in your region and market yourself effectively.

And BTW, I'm 33.  

Again, thanks for the advice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: jfrankcarr  </p>
<p>Thanks for your advice!  I don&#8217;t believe I&#8217;ll be able to do software development forever.  But I will as long as I can.  My point about non-traditional job security is this:</p>
<p>Programming is something that lends itself well to an entrepreneurial approach for the same reason it lends itself to outsourcing.  Ours is one of the few professions that given a laptop and electricity, we can work anywhere.  I believe that job security in American IT in this post-Outsourcing world will be achieved by those who are flexible enough to fill a vaccuum.  Sometimes it will be multi-year engagements, othertimes it&#8217;ll be 3-6 month gigs.  But the key (IMHO) is to see the biz need in your region and market yourself effectively.</p>
<p>And BTW, I&#8217;m 33.  </p>
<p>Again, thanks for the advice!</p>
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		<title>By: jfrankcarr</title>
		<link>http://vbnotebookfor.net/2007/10/11/should-you-pursue-a-career-in-programming/#comment-763</link>
		<author>jfrankcarr</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://vbnotebookfor.net/2007/10/11/should-you-pursue-a-career-in-programming/#comment-763</guid>
		<description>Hi fsilber

The emerging trend I'm seeing in offshoring is that companies are running into a talent supply problem, even in India. Skilled programmers over there have caught on to the fact that they were leaving money on the table and have demanded higher pay. Less skilled and cheaper 'coders' can't fill their role but some companies still believe that they can. 

And you're right, management and sales are where the big money is located.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi fsilber</p>
<p>The emerging trend I&#8217;m seeing in offshoring is that companies are running into a talent supply problem, even in India. Skilled programmers over there have caught on to the fact that they were leaving money on the table and have demanded higher pay. Less skilled and cheaper &#8216;coders&#8217; can&#8217;t fill their role but some companies still believe that they can. </p>
<p>And you&#8217;re right, management and sales are where the big money is located.</p>
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		<title>By: jfrankcarr</title>
		<link>http://vbnotebookfor.net/2007/10/11/should-you-pursue-a-career-in-programming/#comment-762</link>
		<author>jfrankcarr</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://vbnotebookfor.net/2007/10/11/should-you-pursue-a-career-in-programming/#comment-762</guid>
		<description>Hi again Aaron

It's great that you have had good career stability right now. 

The problem I've seen over and over again isn't a problem with the software developers but a problem with the company they work for. Many view IT as a cost center and they're one of the first to get fired for just about any reason. Some companies I've worked for have gone under due to bad management or they've been sold and the IT staff was fired because we were considered 'redundant'.

The other thing I'd mention is that, judging from your comments, you're young. That really helps when you have to find a new job quickly. I didn't have problems finding new work either until I hit my 40's. Since then I've faced considerable ageism and had two long stretches of unemployment where I had to work very short term contracts or do Internet marketing to make ends meet. That's why I recommend preparing for this fact of IT life in your career planning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again Aaron</p>
<p>It&#8217;s great that you have had good career stability right now. </p>
<p>The problem I&#8217;ve seen over and over again isn&#8217;t a problem with the software developers but a problem with the company they work for. Many view IT as a cost center and they&#8217;re one of the first to get fired for just about any reason. Some companies I&#8217;ve worked for have gone under due to bad management or they&#8217;ve been sold and the IT staff was fired because we were considered &#8216;redundant&#8217;.</p>
<p>The other thing I&#8217;d mention is that, judging from your comments, you&#8217;re young. That really helps when you have to find a new job quickly. I didn&#8217;t have problems finding new work either until I hit my 40&#8217;s. Since then I&#8217;ve faced considerable ageism and had two long stretches of unemployment where I had to work very short term contracts or do Internet marketing to make ends meet. That&#8217;s why I recommend preparing for this fact of IT life in your career planning.</p>
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		<title>By: jfrankcarr</title>
		<link>http://vbnotebookfor.net/2007/10/11/should-you-pursue-a-career-in-programming/#comment-761</link>
		<author>jfrankcarr</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://vbnotebookfor.net/2007/10/11/should-you-pursue-a-career-in-programming/#comment-761</guid>
		<description>Thanks for your thoughtful response Andrew,

I started out in technical support as well and, even though that was almost 20 years ago now, I still hate answering the phone.

That's a good point on the offshoring issue. It seems that skilled programmers are becoming scarce in India, causing some companies to "in-shore" back to the US. China is too busy to their own growing economy to offshore their resources.

Yes, it is a job, not a hobby. It's great when you find a place to work where you can keep the job BS at a minimum so that you can enjoy doing what you love to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your thoughtful response Andrew,</p>
<p>I started out in technical support as well and, even though that was almost 20 years ago now, I still hate answering the phone.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a good point on the offshoring issue. It seems that skilled programmers are becoming scarce in India, causing some companies to &#8220;in-shore&#8221; back to the US. China is too busy to their own growing economy to offshore their resources.</p>
<p>Yes, it is a job, not a hobby. It&#8217;s great when you find a place to work where you can keep the job BS at a minimum so that you can enjoy doing what you love to do.</p>
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		<title>By: fsilber</title>
		<link>http://vbnotebookfor.net/2007/10/11/should-you-pursue-a-career-in-programming/#comment-760</link>
		<author>fsilber</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://vbnotebookfor.net/2007/10/11/should-you-pursue-a-career-in-programming/#comment-760</guid>
		<description>If the outsourcing fad ends, then this is the ideal time to get into IT, because so few of your peers are doing that right now.

If the outsourcing trend continues and strengthens itself, then it will move on to other occupations before long.  There is no reason back-office legal work cannot be done in India.  Likewise for much medical work.  Who knows, ten years from now people may find it cheaper to fly to India for surgery than to see Indian-born doctors here in the west.  Most of the IT jobs that could be moved have already been moved (I hope).  If you switch to another field, that may be like leaving a field burnt by a forest fire to a forest that will burn down tomorrow.

As for salaries, very few jobs in any field offer high pay to people who can do things well.  The big money goes to those who can make other people do things (e.g., salesmen and managers).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the outsourcing fad ends, then this is the ideal time to get into IT, because so few of your peers are doing that right now.</p>
<p>If the outsourcing trend continues and strengthens itself, then it will move on to other occupations before long.  There is no reason back-office legal work cannot be done in India.  Likewise for much medical work.  Who knows, ten years from now people may find it cheaper to fly to India for surgery than to see Indian-born doctors here in the west.  Most of the IT jobs that could be moved have already been moved (I hope).  If you switch to another field, that may be like leaving a field burnt by a forest fire to a forest that will burn down tomorrow.</p>
<p>As for salaries, very few jobs in any field offer high pay to people who can do things well.  The big money goes to those who can make other people do things (e.g., salesmen and managers).</p>
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